Do skiers hate snowmobiling?

What does snowmobiling have to do with skiing? It depends. Some skiers hate them. Some skiiers regularly use snowmobiles to get into the back country and find that perfect untracked powder. Most ski areas use snowmobiles to get their employees around the area. Many skiers like to take a day off from skiing and hit the snowmobile trails. It is another recreational opportunity that more and morewinter resorts are offering. The December Issue of Ski magazine has an article on snowmobiling.

 

 My partner and I just finished a film titled, Rules of the Snow. It is a 50 minute film which takes a new approach to the subject of snowmobile safety. Rules of the Snow is an excellent introduction to those who are new to the sport and an interesting refresher for those who have snowmobiled for years. It¹s a documentary-style safety film which examines the fun of snowmobiling as well as the major ways that snowmobilers get themselves into trouble. Over thirty experts discuss such topics as: riding on ice, avalanches, speed, racing, snowmobile clubs, obstacles, winter survival, safe riding tips, helicopter rescue, alcohol, rules of the road, safe riding tips, and more. There is also a section on courtesy towards other users on the trail.

Survey on snowmobiling and other snow sports

A winter trails survey was conducted by the University of Minnesota Duluth, School of Business and Economics and Sea Grant Minnesota in the winter season of 2002/2003. The technical report on the Cook County, Minnesota resident survey was developed as a part of the larger research project “Tourism and Winter Trail-based Recreation: An economic and environmental comparison of motor and quiet sports.” The project was designed to document and compare the impacts of snowmobiling and cross country skiing in a destination county. It will measure the economic impacts and assess the perceived social and environmental impacts of these activities.

 

 This study employed questionnaires with snowmobilers and cross country skiers and survey local residents in Cook County, Minnesota. An understanding of the differences between motor sports (snowmobiling) and a quiet sport (cross country skiing) is useful in planning future development, minimizing negative impacts, and improving marketing decisions. Cook County, Minnesota has approximately 3100 registered voters while hosting thousands of visitors that flock to the Arrowhead region of Minnesota for cross-country skiing and snowmobiling. There are over 300km of groomed cross-country ski trails in Cook County, which many say are the best in the Midwest

Maturation of a sport- snowmobiling

Subject: The facets of modern snowmobiling are many and varied: – Touring – New places to ride – Trail conditions – Trail maps – New sled reports – Racing results – Equipment tricks and tips – Known ‘bugs’ in new/used snowmobile models – Safety tips – Equipment for sale – Snowmobile club information – ‘War’ stories Comment:

 

 Snowmobiling has matured in the last ten years into a lesisure activity enjoyed by as many as 40 million people world-wide. Gone is the image of the ‘drunken cowboy, chasing deer across private property in the middle of the night’. It’s is now an accepted family activity, and an integral part of many northern and western state’s wintertime economies. The enjoyment extends from oval and cross-country racing to group touring to weekend rallys hosting thousands of people. All in all, snowmobiling is a decent, respectable, and most of, enjoyable way to get through the winter without even a trace of ‘cabin-fever’!

 

We have four of the beasts, and enjoy them very much. I think the conversation could be interesting in learning about other snowmobile clubs traditions, different places to ride, new laws/restrictions on snowmobiles, etc. Snowmobiling is not the sport most people think it is. Snowmobiling is not just for people who decide to ride around trees at 95 miles per hour. It is a sport that all ages can enjoy. My 60 year old mother snowmobiles. I enjoy it when I get into an open area where the speed limits are higher. I love the feel of power I get when the engine screams. I’ll vote for it. I encourage others who snowmobile to do so as well

Snowmobile engine conditions

As far as I know, noisome is not a proper word. Try noisy. As far as snowmobiling being a sport, just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it a non-sport. Also unless you have participated in the activity in question you have no credibility judging whether it is a sport or not. You are probably one of those people who think professional racing drivers are just out for a leisurely Sunday drive and require no athletic ability at all. Please keep your uninformed comments to yourself.

 

I can’t help it if you have a limited vocabulary and/or don’t have a dictionary. Noisome means offensive and disgusting, which is the way I feel about snowmobiles. But you’re right, they are noisy. There are many sports I don’t personally like, hockey being one, but I recognize it as a sport. I just happen to think that a “sport” using an engine is not a sport — fun, perhaps, even requiring skill – as in race car driving, but not a sport. Oh, and I have participated in snowmobiling, so I guess that gives me credibility. And as to “uninformed comments,” simply because my thoughts on this matter don’t meet with your approval does not make them uninformed. Last I heard, darling, this is a democratic forum.

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Is snowmobiling physically exerting?

I meant rec.sport.jet-ski, or you could pick any number of motorized activities that are classified as sport. My point is that there is a number of people (the majority?) who would define snowmobiling as a sport regardless of the fact that there is an internal combustion engine involved. Anyone can do anything, or at least attempt it.

 

I am curious why you think that there is no physical skill involved? Again, how is that different than Orienteering? Anyone can look at a compass, does that require physical skill? How about skating, anyone can lace up a pair and off they go. I am being a little ludicrous but my point is valid, there is room in sport for all, the amount of effort and skill devoted to it can and will very in all sports. I would like to know what experience you have in snowmobiling. Have you ridden much? I am guessing that you have had little exposure to the sport. I have nothing against that and would urge you to seek out a chance to try snowmobiling. You may be surprised and find that it is a really enjoyable sport (you do not step on the gas, the throttle is on the handlebars and is controlled by the thumb).

Health issues- snowmobiles

YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, Montana, November 5, 2002 (ENS) – Employees in the crown jewel of America’s National Park System may need both respirators and ear protection to perform their jobs this winter. Last winter, Yellowstone National Park equipped rangers with respirators to protect their lungs as they worked in kiosks where snowmobiles entering the park spewed pollution containing unhealthy levels of carbon monoxide, benzene, and formaldehyde. Now, some park employees are experiencing hearing loss, and the world’s first national park is instituting a hearing conservation program as the snowmobile season approaches. The park has purchased and is testing high-tech ear protection, battery powered earmuffs that screen out high decibel noise. Park employees will receive training in how to protect their hearing from the roar and whine of snowmobiles.

 

 The Montana Department of Environmental Quality says, “Noise can be a health concern for employees working around snowmobiles, since it can cause hearing loss and increased blood pressure. Studies have shown hearing loss for persons subjected to 73 decibels for eight hours per day over 40 years, or for exposures to 85 decibels over a shorter number of years.” Concerns about the human health impacts from snowmobile use in Yellowstone have been expressed by the Environmental Protection Agency, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, and Physicians for Social Responsibility. Three environmental groups, the Greater Yellowstone Coalition, Natural Trails and Waters Coalition, and The Wilderness Society, warn that even after the fifth comment period in three years to demonstrate overwhelming public support for replacing snowmobile use in Yellowstone with snowcoach access, on November 12, the Bush administration will make public its plan to continue snowmobile use in Yellowstone. After a decade of study, the Park Service decided in November 2000 to institute a gradual phaseout of snowmobile use in Yellowstone, beginning this winter. But the Bush administration withheld implementation of this decision to settle a lawsuit brought by snowmobile manufacturers and the state of Wyoming, which wants to protect tourism dollars. Limitations on snowmobiles in Yellowstone, Bush administration officials have said, will be very strict. Yellowstone will not see “business as usual.” The Park Service “will not allow impairment.” But the three groups say, in draft alternatives issued earlier this year, it was clear that “continued snowmobile use would come with less protection for human health and a heavier toll on Yellowstone and its wildlife.”

Looking to plan a snowmobiling “stay and play” trip package?

Looking to plan a snowmobiling “stay and play” trip package. I stayed at a B&B several years ago, which I think was either in NH or VT. Unfortunately, I can’t remember the name (or the place for that matter). Anyway, you paid a set amount at this B&B and it included your breakfast, lodging and a snowmobile rental.

 

I’ve searched the web, but haven’t found anything recent (alot web pages weren’t updated in years, or were removed…which surprised me). I was wondering if anyone else knew of any “stay and play” (B&B or even hotel) combo’s around? I’m looking into a group of 4-8 and would rather an unguided tour. The place we went to gave you a map and their blessing, and you were off. The trails had several stops along the route (small “trail” restaurants, gas stations, etc.) It was really cool. If anyone has any info on some places, I’d love to learn about them.

Variety machines- snomobiles

One thing I find with all snomobiles is that the personal up keep and time the owner puts into has a definite affect on the performance. If you take the time to make sure everything is running smoothly not to mention beef it up by an after-market pipe, reeds, etc.

 

Things can run a lot better than say a person who has their machine jetted wrong, and stock everything. We have a friend who rides a ’94 (i believe) Yamaha Phaser II that can give a lot of the bigger machines a run for their money in hill climbing and speed. He does wonders with this machine, sometimes he can do things some of the older Vmax’s can’t (haven’t tried new ones). All of my machines are bone factory stock, minus the occasional new belt or plugs. The Phazer will give some of the bigger machines a run for their money, due to it’s shorter stroke, but it looses out in over all power.

A memorable snowmobile trip

About 3 weekends or so ago I left on a snowmobile trip with some friends to do what was planed to be a 800 mile weekend. After a230 mile (On a warm day 0-2 degrees C running really hard) I heard a squeeking/light squeeling noise from the PTO side of the engine. I stopped the machine and one of the guys in the group was mechanic. He pushed and pulled on the crank and said that everything seemed fine to him.

 

So we continued on about 15-20 miles further my machine just died. Pulled the plugs, everything looked fine, plugs piston top etc. Pun new plugs in and it fired right up. But it didn’t sound right, still that squeeky noise, especially as the rpm started to drop from 4000 or 5000 down to around 2500-3000. So we towed the machine back to the nearesst gas station (about a mile) and called a friend who came to pick me up.

Being a snowmobile fanatic in southern Ohio

Being a snowmobile fanatic in southern Ohio is a difficult proposition at best! Weekend trips are almost out of the question for me – if it’s not at least 3 days, it isn’t worth the bother. But there are places in Ohio where you can ride, and in fact, the NE corner of the state is a pretty good spot, with the lake effect snow and rolling hills overlooking Lake Erie. It’s kind of a toss-up for me though – it takes 4 hours to get there and it takes 6 hours to get to Cadillac Michigan – so for 4 extra hours of driving I can get to *real* snowmobiling.

 

that’s only two-cups-of-coffee worth! During good snow years there can be a decent snowcover as far south as Grand Lake St. Marys, and if the lake freezes, there’s a lot of snowmobiling done there and on the surrounding farmland – not the most scenic place, but if you’re desperate to ride . . . So I hope to take a few daytrips to St. Marys and Mohican State Park near Mansfield. Then I want to get up to Michigan three or four times for three days (or longer) at a time. I’d like to try Indian River this winter – I hope to talk my wife into going along on that trip, but she’s not a big fan of the sport. And I definitely want to hit at least one winter carnival – Houghton Lake has (or had) a really good one sometime in January – to ride the new sleds.